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  2. Between 2010 and 2014, archeologists digging in London’s financial district, on the site of a new British headquarters for Bloomberg, made an astonishing discovery—a collection of more than four hundred wooden tablets, preserved in the muck of an underground river. The tablets, postcard-sized sheets of fir, spruce, and larch, dated mainly from a couple of decades after the Roman conquest of Britain, in A.D. 43, straddling the period, in the reign of Nero, when Boudica’s rebellion very nearly got rid of the occupation altogether. Eighty of them carried legible texts—legible, that is, to Roger Tomlin, one of the world’s foremost experts in very old handwriting. Full article: http://www.newyorker.com/culture/persons-of-interest/how-to-decode-an-ancient-romans-handwriting?mbid=social_facebook
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    Hi Mallim, Glad to see you here. Things are kind of slow in these parts but I'm hoping to try and light a fire in the near future! Stick around. Love finding good old books in stores. Make sure you check out our Facebook page if you haven't been there yet. It's very active.
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    Hello I'm malc, new to this forum and any other sort of forum, so please bare with me! Love all history but favourite is Greek, presently reading 'where Troy once stood' which i found in a charity shop!
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    Hey, glad to see you here! I'm taking care of the Facebook page, but I think that is a lot more active than the forum at the moment! Still, appreciate that you took the time to register!
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    Ave! Just found your group & registered & whatnot. I've been a history buff since childhood. Thanx for having me aboard.
  8. ToposText is an indexed collection of ancient texts and mapped places relevant the the history and mythology of the ancient Greeks from the Neolithic period up through the 2nd century CE. It was inspired by two decades of exploring Greece by car, foot, or bicycle, and by clumsy efforts to appreciate επί τόπου the relevant information from Pausanias or other primary sources. The development of mobile electronic devices since 2010 has coincided with an increasingly comprehensive assortment of ancient texts available on the internet. Browse for places and select authors and events! Combined with data from Pleiades Project and Travelogues. Url to the Topostext site: http://topostext.org/places.php Have fun, Auris
  9. Scythian Gold Caught in Ukraine Dispute

    Update: Dutch court ruled that the 500 artefacts should be returned to Ukraine, not to Crimean Musea (Amsterdam, 14th december 2016). Russians not satisfied, Crimean musea file an appeal. See: Russia to appeal as Dutch court orders return of Scythian gold to Ukraine Auris
  10. Hellenistic theater found in Agrigento

    I wonder if this is the one Alexander Hardcastle was looking for decades ago. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8168380/Archaeologists-to-embark-on-quest-for-2500-year-old-lost-Greek-theatre.html
  11. http://www.ansa.it/canale_viaggiart/it/notizie/bellezza/2016/11/04/valle-dei-templi-scavi-confermano-scoperta-teatro_908b1dd1-aa91-43ba-8e2d-740288cf20e1.html Still can't find news in English, but apparenly they did finally locate the remains of an ancient Greek theater in Agrigento. For those who do not known, Agrigento is the location of one of the most rich archaeological sites of ancient Greek culture.
  12. Tree of Life

    Your references are fascinating and interesting with no doubt. Of course comparison is basic for the scientific knowledge of human phenomena. The problem is that the comparative study of myth and religion has been historically associated with the search for archetypes (read: the invention of them) and for any other kind of theoretical and practical connection, giving rise to simplistic and inherently biased views in which the concern of the scholar was to inscribe individual phenomena within a pre-existent theoretical model, rather than understanding them in their individuality. In general it's much more useful to study human phenomena in connection with other phenomena within the same historical and social context: this kind of connections will illuminate their meaning much more broadly and deeply than the comparison with phenomena that, within the context of totally unrelated cultures, may share some specific and yet skin-deep feature.
  13. Tree of Life

    Yes, I have read several works that point out that the great tree which appears in the heavens in Mayan mythological artworks might be the Milky Way galaxy. I find the comparative study of myth and religion to be very interesting. It sheds a great deal of light on the subject. Just as I can only know my own face by comparing it with others, I can know my own cultural background best by comparing it with others. Many of these stories are wide spread, found in various versions stretching across continents and millennia. I admit, I don't have patience with Jungian archetypes. Everything in the world is not simplistic and childish Freudian imagery. But humans communicate. We spread words and ideas and technology. These are our best trade items, and they are light to carry, too. Sometimes the cultural additions can obscure the underlying similarity. I can think of a few examples of this tree story, if it does not try your patience too severely. In the epics of Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh kills the giant Humbaba and chops down the great cedar tree guarded by the giant. My St. Martin's Press "Field Astronomy Handbook" points out that constellation Hercules was called Gilgamesh. You'll notice the Sumerian and Akkadian stories of Gilgamesh on his journeys is a variant version of Hercules on his journeys of the Twelve Labours of Hercules. Gilgamesh also meets and kills the Celestial Bull/Taurus the Bull, meets and kills Leo the Lion, meets Scorpio-man or Scorpius, meets Utnapashtim or Aquarius, and so on. Hercules has twelve labours because the sky is divided into twelve parts by the movements of the planet Jupiter. This divides the sky in to the twelve parts of the zodiac. Humbaba the Giant was a version of Orion the Hunter, or Orion the Giant. Next to Orion is the Milky Way, so in the Gilgamesh story, next to Humbaba the Giant is the great cedar tree. The Gilgamesh story is from the Middle East about 3,000-1,800 B. C. The ancient Middle Eastern sky map was a bit different than the modern western one, although shared many similarities. The Hercules or Herakles stories of the Greeks and Romans are written down about 600 B.C. to 300 A.D., approximately. In one of the Greek stories, the Milky Way is the gush of milk that arcs from Hera's breast as she pulls away from baby Herakles. The Greek and Roman pantheons had twelve great gods. Each of the twelve gods had a 'temple' or house of the zodiac, according to Manilius, the 1st century writer. These were : Aries the Ram - Athena/Minerva, Taurus the Bull -Aphrodite/Venus, Gemini Twins - Apollo (also called Helios) /Apollo, Cancer the Crab - Hermes/Mercury, Leo the Lion - Zeus/Jupiter, Virgo the Virgin - Ceres/Demeter, Libra the Scales - Hephaestus/Vulcan, Scorpius the Scorpion - Ares/Mars, Sagittarius the Archer - Artemis/ Diana, Capricornus the Goat-Fish - Hestia/Vesta, Aquarius the Waterbearer - Hera/Juno, Pisces the Fish - Poseidon/Neptune. Jupiter, who divides the sky into twelve parts and assigned each of the great gods a 'house' in the sky, was appointed king of the gods. In myth, Jupiter wrestled with his father Saturn or Chronos (Time) for rulership. Jupiter won, and cast his father, bound, into the outer limits of dark Gygigia, and Saturn is still out on the edge of the solar system today. According to legend, Jupiter, as new king of the gods, took the measures of Time from his father Saturn or Chronos, and so we measure time by the movements of Jupiter today. Because Jupiter divides the sky into twelve parts, we divide the sky into twelve parts. We divide the year into twelve months. We divide the day into twelve hour segments. Just about the time of the Roman Empire (more or less) the sky had drifted, and the winter solstice was no longer in Capricornus the Goat-Fish. Formerly, the Tropic of Capricorn actually had the constellation Capricorn in it. The new sign of the winter solstice was Sagittarius the Archer. The Tropic of Capricorn now had Sagittarius in it. The Milky Way, that Tree of Life, rose up through Sagittarius the Archer, and lifted vertically into the sky like a great tree rising overhead during this time of year. To celebrate the winter solstice, the Romans performed the Saturnalia, and a tree, often carved with a face in the trunk, was carried through the streets. --In the days of the Sumerians, the Sumerians had said that the Milky Way lifted vertically in the sky during the spring and fall equinoxes, acting as a ladder between heaven and earth. And it did, but that was thousands of years earlier, and the sky had drifted due to precession of the equinoxes since then. In the 1st century A.D., someone wrote the Book of Revelation used in the Christian New Testament. In this book there is a vision of heaven overhead where there is a city of twelve gates and in the middle is the Tree of Life. About 5th century A.D., Macrobius the Roman poet and astronomer points out that the Milky Way is also called the Tree of Life, and it rises across the sky in the middle of the twelve houses of the zodiac. About 1,000 A.D. or so, Nordic stories were being collected and written down. The Norse and Germanic people celebrated twelve great gods, each living in a house in the heavens. Rising up through the layers of heaven was the great tree, Yggdrasil. The Norse say Yggdrasil appears white, because it is spattered with mud. In Njal's Saga, we learn that the Icelandic people divided themselves into twelve tribes, each with a judge/chief in charge. These twelve judges carried symbolic hammers to show they were representatives of Thor. Thor was the Nordic name for the planet Jupiter. In the 1800's, anthropologists were collecting ceremonial gear from Siberian shamans (I forget the names of the tribes). Some of the gear had painted pictures of the shaman climbing up into the heavens by climbing a great celestial tree. More recently, this winter of 2015, the twelfth month of the year, I erected a tree in the living room, and decorated it with lights and placed a star on top at the time of the traditional Saturnalia, the winter solstice, or Christmas. Your pardon. I do go on. I might have mentioned I like comparative mythology. Reading multiple sources from multiple cultures often gives me insight into my own culture. I find it also explicates the stories of the culture I am reading at the time. Each of these previous people has left their mark on my own society today.There are probably many others, these spring to mind at the moment.
  14. Beautiful Paleolithic art

    That's amazing, what a find! BTW I'm in Reno and just had to laugh at the faux-classical statutes in the casino lobby!
  15. Beautiful Paleolithic art

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37654544 would love to go and see these.
  16. Tree of Life

    It is very interesting. I know relatively very little about ancient Egypt, hence I have little to add to the discussion, but the suggested identity between the Tree of Life archetype and the Milky Way is quite interesting. The above picture seems quite clear in indicating the identity. A quick search shows that the same identity has been proposed for the Maya culture: https://web.archive.org/web/20070106021734/http://members.shaw.ca/mjfinley/creation.html However, all in all I am unfavourable to the comparative study of myth and religion based on the study of so-called 'archetypes' (and it is a faded paradigm anyway).
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    As long as you don't slaughter your servants for they slept with someone, you should be ok with the influence of Homer.
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